Romney Not Winning Over Ron Paul Supporters, GOP Influentials Say
Patch's new Red Granite poll shows Tea Party members are a different story.
Mitt Romney may have won over New Hampshire Tea Party members, but the jury's still out on whether he can bring over disaffected Ron Paul supporters, according to this week's Red Granite survey of influential conservatives.
In all, 103 Republicans from New Hampshire were asked using an automated survey tool whether they think Romney – who is visiting the state today – has gained the support of Ron Paul backers in New Hampshire.
Fifty responses were collected.
Only 44 percent of those surveyed agreed that Romney has to some degree wrapped up the Paul supporters. Thirty-six percent said they somewhat agree, and 8 percent completely agreed. Meanwhile, 28 percent said they somewhat disagree, 12 completely disagree, and 16 percent are neutral.
Several people responding to the survey suggested that Romney needs to work harder to win over Paul supporters.
"Pick a Ron Paul favorite as VP, and promise an administration spot to Ron Paul or his choice," said one.
"Pick Ron Paul as VP," said another.
Even after Romney's overwhelming win in the New Hampshire Primary, many Tea Party members here said they wouldn't vote for him. But it appears that sentiment may be changing somewhat now that Romney is set to become the Republican nominee.
In all, 74 percent of the survey respondents said they agree to some degree that Romney has won over New Hampshire Tea Party members. Fifty-eight percent said they somewhat agree, while 16 percent said they agree completely. Fourteen percent said they somewhat disagree, while 12 percent remain neutral.
One respondent did say that Romney needs to "embrace the Tea Party" and stop criticizing Sarah Palin.
Almost 90 percent of those surveyed responded in the affirmative when asked if they consider New Hampshire a must-win state for Romney. Forty-four percent said they somewhat agree, and 42 percent completely agreed. Six percent somewhat disagreed, 2 percent completely disagreed, and 4 percent remained neutral.
We also asked our Republican influentials what they think Romney needs to do in order to win the election, and received some interesting responses.
"Be consistently conservative," said one.
Another had a similar message, but was a more blunt – "Become a Republican."
One respondent took a dig at Romney's scheduled mid-day ice cream social in Milford on Friday, saying he shouldn't have ice cream socials on a Friday afternoon "while the real voters are at work."
Yet another urged Romney to show off his human side. "Be one of us. Water ski on Winnipesaukee. Let's see more group family stuff."
The Red Granite Survey
Our surveys are not a scientific random sample of any larger population but rather an effort to listen to a swath of influential local Republican activists, party leaders and elected officials in New Hampshire. All of these individuals have agreed to participate in the surveys, although not all responded to this week's questions. Surveys were conducted between June 11 and June 14, 2012.
Patch will be conducting Red Granite and Blue Granite surveys throughout 2012 in hopes of determining the true sentiment of Republicans and Democrats on the ground in New Hampshire. If you are an activist, party leader or elected official and would like to take part in a weekly surveys that lasts just a few minutes, please email Regional Editor Marc Fortier at marc.fortier@patch.com.
Red Granite Roster: Zac Johnson (Technical writer), Mauri Foster (Retired), Marie Lopez-Reyes (Small business owner), Eduardo Lopez-Reyes (Republican Liberty Caucus, National Vice Chair), Harry McClard (Freelance writer), Pam Tucker (Deputy House Speaker), Gary Ellmer (Chairman, Portsmouth Republican Committee), John Lyons (Lawyer), Rick Paige (Loan officer), Chris Buck (Republican activist), Jerry Delemus (Republican activist), Tasha Olsen (Republican activist) Jim Waddell (State Rep), Russell Bridle (State Rep), Alan Williams (North Hampton resident, former Exeter Selectman), Amy Perkins (State Rep), Lawrence Perkins (State Rep), Diane Bitter (Republican activist), Michele Peckham (State Rep), Fred Rice (State Rep), David Hurst (NH Young Republicans Chairman), Sheila Francoeur (Seacoast Republican Women member), Brandon Stauber (Small business owner), Frank Ferraro (Exeter Selectman), Matt Quandt (State Rep/Exeter Selectman), Julie DiCarlo (Small business owner), Ron DiCarlo (Small business owner), Lee Quandt (State Rep), Tim Copeland (State Rep), Steve Brennan (Business owner), Brian Griset (Member of local political committee), Dan St. Hilaire (Executive Councilor/Concord City Councilor), Kris MacNeil (Former State Senate candidate), Robert Washburn (Former Concord City Councilor), Stephen Ludwick (Chairman, Supervisors of the Checklist, Concord Ward 9), Chris Tremblay (Republican activist), Laura Foote (Republican activist), Tom Rath (Consultant), Shari Demers (Republican activist), Jamie Burnett (Consultant), Bill Boyd (Merrimack Town Councilor), Chris Christiansen (State Rep), William Smith (Conservative blogger), Maureen Mooney (Former State Rep), Dick Hinch (State Rep), Chris Buda (Merrimack GOP Chairman), Juanita Dangel (Hillsborough County GOP Secretary), Gary Krupp (Merrimack School Budget Committee), Lenette Peterson (State Rep), Kathy Stroud (State Rep), George Markwell (Merrimack School Board member), D.J. Bettencourt (Former House Majority Leader), Ed Brooks (Former ME Selectman, Town Councilor), Ed Declercq (Salem Planning Board Member), Bob Elliott (State Rep), Bianca Garcia (Former Salem GOP Victory office manager), David Garcia (Salem Town GOP Chair), Pat Hargreaves (Salem Selectman), Jeff Hatch (Salem Romney Town Chair), Tom Linehan (Republican activist), Patrick McDougall (Salem Budget Committee member), Keith Murphy (State Rep), Andrew Manuse (State Rep), Joel Maiola (Former Judd Gregg Chief of Staff), Ken Hawkins (State Rep), Jim Costello (Teacher), Eric Anderson (Former State Rep), John Cebrow (State Rep), Jim Rubens (Former State Senator), Raymond White (State Senator), John Graham (State Rep), Kathy Benuck (BCTV host/blogger), Mark Vincent (Chairman of Amherst Republicans), Peter Hansen (State Rep), Ken Jones (Amherst Republicans member), Bill Modis (Vice Chairman of Amherst Republicans), Steve Landry (Small business owner), Tony Zore (Tea Party member), Lisa Hansen (Romney supporter), Gary Daniels (State Rep), Tom Walker (Conservative Republican), Jennifer Horn (Republican activist), Jim Luther (State Senator), Michael Gallagher (Nashua Republican City Committee), Mark Cookson (Nashua Alderman-at-large), J. Christopher Williams (Nashua Chamber of Commerce President), Pete Silva (House Majority Leader), Bob Duffy (Nashua Republican City Committee member), Di Lothrop (Nashua Republican City Committee member), Kathryn Peterson (Community activist), Pam Price (Former State Rep), David Bates (State Rep), Charles McMahon (State Rep), Kevin Waterhouse (State Rep), Bruce Breton (Windham Selectman), Travis Blais (Windham GOP Chairman), Phil LoChiatto (Windham Selectman), Margaret Crisler (Windham GOP member), Gary Azarian (State Rep), Donna Mauro (State Rep), Rich Okerman (State Rep), Kevin Avard (State Rep), David Murotake (State Rep candidate).
Patriot
10:55 am on Friday, June 15, 2012
Who cares? Let them vote for Obama!
They are not republican, why kiss their _ _ ???
Has anyone sent them a memo telling them their candidate lost?
Jane Aitken
6:52 pm on Friday, June 15, 2012
It's Romney who is NOT a Republican. Endorsing LBJ and Tsongas? Plus the behavior of his campaign workers has been abhorrent.
Bill
7:26 pm on Friday, June 15, 2012
No because he has not lost. I am a delegate from Florida even though they say I must vote for the Romnoid flip flopper, I WILL NOT! I only became a Rombus delegate because the GOP was refusing to allow any Paul delegates! There are 10 MORE stelth delegates who will never vote for your evil Bruce Campbell wannabe! HOW MANY MORE ARE OUT THERE?
Daniel Cooper
2:19 am on Saturday, June 16, 2012
Romney and Obama are the same. I will pencil in Ron Paul. We will keep fighting for freedom and for our Constitutional rights. 16 trillion divided by 350 million Americans is over $50,000.00 per every man woman and child. I want real change. I want politicians to uphold their sworn oath to the laws and the Constitution. I want a real plan on how to stop putting my sons in debt. Not just a bland catch phrase. If there were only ten of us I would still vote Ron Paul. But there are millions of us registered voters, and it is very clear we all feel the same way. So yes we got the memo, but we refuse kiss ___. Going with the lesser of the two evils is no longer expectable to us.
Mike O Smith
7:44 pm on Saturday, June 16, 2012
Lets see Romney care is Obama care. NDAA yep both supported it. Cap and trade both want. Abortion yep both support. Take away more gun rights both support. Want war in Iran both would love that. Both get millions for Goldman Sach/ JP. Morgan. YOu think Ron Paul is not a Republican? YOu dude are no Patriot. You have no clue what a true Republican is.
Steve Skurow
9:38 pm on Monday, August 13, 2012
(ex)Patriot, I, being a life long democrat would not vote for Obama again; and most definitely would not vote for Romney/Ryan. I, along with many, many other former democrats would however would vote for a Ron Paul ticket. The convention is coming up...why can't we see one where the underdog Paul can pull it off...then we're back to a real democracy. If Romney is the candidate, I would bet you can can kiss your own...because Obama will win! Remember the 1948 Democrat Convention ( and Truman, very much like Paul) pulled it off to a final victory. Read your history!!!!
Seamus Carty
1:31 pm on Friday, June 15, 2012
Right. I am sure the Paul supporters are going to go with Obama.
Mike Czysh
8:01 pm on Friday, June 15, 2012
You must be one of those really educated voters;-(
Luke
1:23 am on Saturday, June 16, 2012
No, Gary Johnson :)
Daniel Cooper
10:32 am on Saturday, June 16, 2012
I would like to give a small example of the complete absurdity of big government in my life.
Every week I receive phone calls from a government program worker that wants to discuss safety procedures on my construction site. I have not built a house in almost 4 years, but they just keep calling.
Shari Demers
2:43 pm on Friday, June 15, 2012
If the write-in votes for Ron Paul on the Democratic ballot had been counted, he would have won NH....just an FYI
Ernest
7:00 pm on Saturday, August 25, 2012
Sure he would have. Keep dreaming!
Mike Healey
3:18 pm on Friday, June 15, 2012
Those crazy Paul kids!
Luke
1:23 am on Saturday, June 16, 2012
?
Stephen Schweter
7:43 am on Saturday, June 16, 2012
crazy to expect more then what we have been getting I agree with you on that.
only when more American's decide it is not acceptable for the crap the Media trys to hand to us will things change. Where were ther any debates on the Issues? I do not care who mowes Mitts lawn Etc. When will our troops come home from policing the whole world which we can no longer afford?
Again ,Where is the debate on the Election FRAUD which has taken place across the nation by the Republican party thugs. I nation without borders or Language or a voting process rife with cheating is n0o Election process at all. Mitt did not win anything if all voting were to be done in the open with every step of the way recorded on tape. When is The FEC gonna be brought up on charges for giving us CRAP electronic voting machines which May bge programed to FLIP the vote?
Wake up people America is gone as Dr.Ron Paul so stated in his ASS chewing out to CONGRESS another worthless GOV. Body which does not represent us.
Peace
Stephen Schweter
Dennis Taylor
3:40 pm on Friday, June 15, 2012
3:34 pm on Friday, June 15, 2012
The Republican party has cheated Paul voters out of their party rights in several states. To vote for their candidate is to reward their corruption and willingness to disenfranchise their own people. Romney is not smart enough or knowledgeable enough to be Paul's vice president. If the Romney supporters have any sense, they will demand that Romney offer Paul the job of secretary of the Treasury, along with a promise to audit the Fed. I would hold my nose and vote for the near carbon copy of Obama the Republicans have in Romney under those conditions. Otherwise, my family and I will vote for Paul and let the Republicans who cheated us out of a founding fathers type of candidate lose badly. It's either make meaningful changes to embrace Paul and his knowledge or lose the election.
I would rather have four more years of Obama and a free-for-all at the next election than vote in another nation-weakener like Romney for possibly eight more years.
Jane Aitken
6:53 pm on Friday, June 15, 2012
Romney supports the Federal Reserve/bailouts for corporations and banks, our current foreign policy/foreign aid, and things like the NDAA that deny personal freedoms, so there would be no difference between him or Obama.
Brian St. Onge
5:49 am on Wednesday, June 20, 2012
Ron Paul won't be offered any position by anyone, period. While he may have a few decent ideas, most of his ramblings are just plain dangerous. However, he does appeal to the ignorant and politically naive much in the same way Obama did in 2008.
-Paul-
3:53 pm on Friday, June 15, 2012
Why ask voters what they think other voters will do? This is frankly a silly poll. You need to ID paul supporters, and "tea party" supporters, and then ask them who they're supporting.
As a Paul supporter, I certainly would never vote for Romney. Despite the superficial partisan hyperventilating on talk radio, he's actually nearly identical to obama when it comes to the issues -- anti liberty and pro big government on just about every front.
bob sargent
9:17 am on Saturday, June 16, 2012
never ask a question unless you know the answer. is mitt a cfr and bilderberger?
was he in a ponzi scheme? has he a plan to pull all troops home and cut the national
spending? git rid of the federal reserve and the irs? but he is for funding ice cream socials.
Jane Aitken
9:06 am on Wednesday, June 20, 2012
Our current foreign policy is what is dangerous. That consists of asking NATO/UN for permission to enter 4-5 new conflicts, allowing thousands of foreign lobbyists to run Congress, and shipping billions to foreign countries who basically control us.
Note that Romney would be under the control of these very same people.
Jesse Cole Penick
5:45 pm on Friday, June 15, 2012
They needed a survey for this? LOL
william
5:54 pm on Friday, June 15, 2012
I will never support Mittens. Not if he gives Ron the treasury position, not if he offers Ron the VP spot, not if offer Rand Paul the vp, not with Rand Paul's endorsement, not with Ron Paul's endorsement. The Republicans had a chance to win, to make a stand for real change, to embrace the youth movement. They chose Romney instead. Let them choke on him.
Chadananda
6:09 pm on Friday, June 15, 2012
Good point. Is it better to elect a fake Republican who will destroy both the party and the country by moving closer to socialism or is is better to elect a Democrat who will only destroy the country? At least the Democrat destroys the country honestly since that was his party platform.
Jane Aitken
6:55 pm on Friday, June 15, 2012
Seems to me that people want a REAL Republican to choose, not someone who is manipulated and owned by the same handlers as his opponent (see foreign policy and education) and who buys his way across America.
Patriot
8:41 pm on Friday, June 15, 2012
Did I miss a speech from Ron Paul? The speech I listened to he stated he was a Libertarian.
JD Christianson
2:21 pm on Tuesday, June 19, 2012
Did I miss a speech from Ron Paul? The speech I listened to he stated he was a Libertarian."
"If you analyze it I believe the very heart and soul of conservatism is libertarianism."
Ronald Reagan
Chadananda
6:02 pm on Friday, June 15, 2012
One thing Romney could do is reign in his media attack-dog lackeys a bit. They're still doing all they can to insult and alienate RP supporters. Why continue the calumny and slander when RP has essentially conceded defeat? At this point he needs to be turning on the charm. He can't win without a big chunk of RP followers and he's going to need to work hard to win them over after all the lies and finger-breaking he did to get this far.
Ronald Weasley
6:14 pm on Friday, June 15, 2012
Romney will never get my vote. Ever. Ron's name will be written across my ballot in red marker, sacrificing my ballot if need be.
Jane Aitken
6:50 pm on Friday, June 15, 2012
For the record, this statement "Mitt Romney may have won over New Hampshire Tea Party members.." is ABSOLUTELY NOT true.
The NHTPC actively campaigned AGAINST Romney (that is why we have a tea party after all, it was formed against bad Bush policies in 2007) and they will NOT endorse him in the general because they are not going to reward bad Republicans for bad behavior they continue to demonstrate at the caucuses and on the trail.
Even though the group does not endorse as a whole, 30 of the 40 leaders endorsed Ron Paul and sent out press releases to that effect. That to my knowledge has not changed.
The NHTPC was NOT consulted for this article by either Fortier or Tuohy.
Patriot
8:51 pm on Friday, June 15, 2012
Sounds like a campaign from big ears, Ross Perot. Make me sick!
Gary S Seth
6:52 pm on Friday, June 15, 2012
While I know what Romney is against,Obama. I really don't know what Romney is for. Mr.Romney unfortunately keeps on replaying Seamus "On The Car Roof".especially with that "Old Bandit" from Texas,The "One" who runs that delegate strategy. When will Romney let "Old Bandit " down from the campaign roof ?
Jane Aitken
7:20 pm on Friday, June 15, 2012
Oh I get it... this is an attempt by moderate Republicans for Romney to pretend THEY are the tea party and that Ron Paul supporters are not, when 'tea party members' *ARE* Ron Paul supporters, always were, always will be. Too bad the reporters fell for it.
Ron Paul is THE 'tea party candidate' and always has been since 2007 when it started with his supporters on Dec 16 when they tossed tea in Boston harbor and in harbors all over the country in protest of the bailouts, TARP, war, and the Patriot Act. His supporters ARE the tea party and they still support him.
Patriot
8:53 pm on Friday, June 15, 2012
He has dropped out! HELLOOOOOO!
Ted Sizer
7:22 pm on Friday, June 15, 2012
NO one trusts him. We fear another Bush/liberal. We are sick of holding our nose to vote!
Jane Aitken
7:28 pm on Friday, June 15, 2012
I just noticed that the 'slub' (URL) on this article is different from the title.
Yep it's a MUST WIN, but after the way Romney has treated people, I doubt he will.
I certainly was shocked.
Jane Aitken
9:10 pm on Friday, June 15, 2012
He hasn't dropped out. I just got email from him saying he is having a rally in Tampa on the 26th in addition to the two huge conventions being planned. And to answer another question, he's been a republican congressman for over 20 years. He's libertarian with a small "L" which is what republicanism really is according to Ronnie Reagan.
DaveM
9:50 pm on Friday, June 15, 2012
I'm not going to waste my vote on Romney. He's unelectable. Obama is going to win easily...unfortunately because the GOP have strayed from Republican Core Values and most importantly have disregarded the U.S. Constitution. I"ll be voting for Ron Paul no matter what because that vote will more meaningful than voting for someone who's really not that much different than Obama. So in reality a vote for Romney is a vote for Obama's policies. A vote for Ron Paul will ensure that the GOP will wake up or else the Democrats will win every year and America will really go down the tubes.
Luke
1:28 am on Saturday, June 16, 2012
Love your loyalty, but contrary to Ron Paul, Gary Johnson is going to be in the ballot.
If you want to prove the GOP something, vote for a third party.
DaveM
9:54 pm on Friday, June 15, 2012
Democrats are having a ball knowing that Romney is going to be officially named the GOP nominee. The moment that happens at the convention is the moment the Presidential election is really over. This will be the easiest election to predict in my lifetime.
Luke
1:31 am on Saturday, June 16, 2012
Jaja, it depends. Specially because many Democrats 'changed' their party to vote for Ron Paul.
If they believe in the message of liberty, I am sure they are not going to vote for Obama.
Stephen Schweter
8:49 am on Saturday, June 16, 2012
i would bet the repubs picked Mitt so as to give Barack another 4 Years. Then in the next cycle the pubs will get 8 years ,this is how the game is played and nothing ever changes. Only Dr.Ron Paul would bring real change,At least he could bring the troops home without Congress , Who supports the military industrial complex( wellfare for the rich) which cost,more then welfare for the poor.. that is why both parties and the media are all Aganist Dr.Ron Paul. but American's haven't been able to figure that one out except for the ones who love and respect Dr.Ron Paul.
Just thank the repubs for another 4 years of Barack Hussian Obama.
because Mitt is just not gonna win.
Peace to all
Stephen Schweter
Patriot
4:53 pm on Saturday, June 16, 2012
I am reading this and cannot believe that you have 2 candidates and if in fact your candidate lost why would you not just say Obama is as close to my candidate as I will get. Instead all I read about is how many things you are angry with Romney for. Do you feel that had Ron Paul ran as a democrat he would have been treated differently? Why not pick a candidate that does not lie? If he is a Libertarian and a Doctor I bet he could have started a third party and ran as a Libertarian. My guess is you support Obama and are using the Ron Paul candidacy as a platform to attack Romney, So be it! You are as much a liar as you claim Romney is.
John Engler
12:37 am on Saturday, June 16, 2012
Let me give you some real percentages of Ron Paul supporters: 100% No for Romney, and it will never change.
Stephen Schweter
8:00 am on Saturday, June 16, 2012
I agree your 100% is spot on,How can anyone who respects Dr.Ron Pauls HONESTY and integrity vote for a out and out lier like Mitt Romney ? it is not gonna happen. Hello Barack and screw the Republican party as they have screwed the American's out of a statesman such as Dr.Ron Paul. if Mitt thinks he will get any RP votes he is too crazy to be electable for president. When has cheating and lieing become the new American STANDARD.?
Peace
Down with MITT or S**T both are thye same
bill
4:10 pm on Saturday, June 16, 2012
I agree too! 100% NO to Romney! This article is dumb. Its based on a request of 100 people to respond to a survey and only 50 actually did. Furthermore those 100 people were hand picked which tells me this survey was done for the sole purpose of writing THIS article. Pure propaganda! ...Oh, and look at that; It took two guys to write it, (Marc Fortier and Dan Tuohy). PFFtt! Surely the only reason they only surveyed 50 people is because that's the number they got to before lunch.
Armand Winter
1:49 am on Saturday, June 16, 2012
Romney/Rubio !!! Then we can have two anchor babies on the GOP ticket!
You think the mormons would do any different. Romney would give amnesty to them all.
This is a big part of their faith and their argument against same sex adoption. The Mormons don't believe in depriving anyone of their mother or father.
Maria Hinojosa confronted Obama in this documentary.
http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/pages/frontline/lost-in-detention/
JJ
2:05 am on Saturday, June 16, 2012
The following are the results of two recent straw polls. Feel free to make your OWN conclusions after comparing these facts with the recent primaries.
Ron Paul is winner in Texas straw poll (January 2012):
Paper ballots: Ron Paul 27.9%, ..., Mitt Romney 6.6%
Text: Ron Paul 54.4%, ... Mitt Romney 4.2%
Source: http://www.wfaa.com/news/politics/Ron-Paul-is-winner-in-Texas-straw-poll-137357683.html
GOP presidential hopeful Ron Paul wins California straw poll (September 2011)
Paul won with 44.9% of the votes, Texas Gov. Rick Perry came in second with 29.3% of the votes, and former Massachusetts Gov. Mitt Romney came in third with 8.8% of the votes.
Source: http://articles.cnn.com/2011-09-17/politics/california.straw.poll_1_straw-poll-ron-paul-votes?_s=PM:POLITICS
Brian St. Onge
6:17 am on Saturday, June 16, 2012
Lots of theories and excuses for the losers. But keep in mind........the reason Romney is the Republican nominee is because the people cast more votes for him. And the reason Ron Paul is at home in his rocking chair is because the people cast fewer votes for him. The Ron Paul voters can try to spin his defeat however they want. But the bottom line is the majority of voters did not want him as their nominee.
Stephen Schweter
8:06 am on Saturday, June 16, 2012
The loser will be Mitt you can take that to the bank. Google the article why Dr.Ron Paul cannot win texas or California. Learn about the flip the vote machines in both those states. When will the Head of the FEC be dragged before Congresws for giving us CRAP vote counting Machines? Mitt is not acceptable for any public position at any level. end of story.
Peace
Stephen Schweter
bob sargent
9:38 am on Saturday, June 16, 2012
and who counted the votes? the rnc. no democrat or republican,or those opposed to
a honest return to constitutional gov would back any one that wanted to.
b.sargent west colo
Patriot
4:56 pm on Saturday, June 16, 2012
I am reading this and cannot believe that you have 2 candidates and if in fact your candidate lost why would you not just say Obama is as close to my candidate as I will get. Instead all I read about is how many things you are angry with Romney for. Do you feel that had Ron Paul ran as a democrat he would have been treated differently? Why not pick a candidate that does not lie? If he is a Libertarian and a Doctor I bet he could have started a third party and ran as a Libertarian. My guess is you support Obama and are using the Ron Paul candidacy as a platform to attack Romney, So be it! You are as much a liar as you claim Romney is.
Sheila Stacks
7:47 am on Saturday, June 16, 2012
I'm sorry Brian, but I believe you are wrong. With all the evidence that has come out, it is obviously that the voters have been conned out of their votes in a lot of states... but its ok, they will see our numbers in florida, and they won't be able to flip those numbers - i will be there!
Jane Aitken
2:58 pm on Saturday, June 16, 2012
RP just won the vast majority of delegates in Iowa, where frankly I think he won the general anyway... exit polls cited 42% but it's the delegates that count.
david edwards
8:53 am on Saturday, June 16, 2012
If Ron paul is not on the Ballot in November, I will vote for Gary Johnson, Mitt is a Democrat on Republican ballot. Anyone thinks he is Republican is as lost as he is! I am not changing principles for party sake. There is no differences between parties
Jane Aitken
2:57 pm on Saturday, June 16, 2012
Don't forget that Johnson is not for securing the borders and is pro-choice. I can't vote for that.
News Flash
2:51 pm on Saturday, June 16, 2012
Bias democrat headline. 44% plus 36% is 80%. Doesn't that mean most Ron Paul supporters are for Romney.
Buster000
4:31 pm on Saturday, June 16, 2012
they should have polled ron paul supporters. the answer would have been an astounding 100% no!
Jane Aitken
4:43 pm on Saturday, June 16, 2012
@bill I'm not sure what the authors were thinking. They both should be aware that the great majority of the tea party leaders endorsed Ron Paul. (about 30/40) And even of those who did not, they now prefer him to MR. However, beats me why they did not actually include this fact in the piece.
Patriot
4:57 pm on Saturday, June 16, 2012
I am reading this and cannot believe that you have 2 candidates and if in fact your candidate lost why would you not just say Obama is as close to my candidate as I will get. Instead all I read about is how many things you are angry with Romney for. Do you feel that had Ron Paul ran as a democrat he would have been treated differently? Why not pick a candidate that does not lie? If he is a Libertarian and a Doctor I bet he could have started a third party and ran as a Libertarian. My guess is you support Obama and are using the Ron Paul candidacy as a platform to attack Romney, So be it! You are as much a liar as you claim Romney is.
Patriot
4:58 pm on Saturday, June 16, 2012
Obama writers are not speaking for Tea Party members but nice try!!!!
Jane Aitken
6:46 pm on Saturday, June 16, 2012
Excuse me, I doubt highly that Ron Paul supporters commenting here, are OBAMA supporters, but nice try for the insult. I am a lifelong republican but I consider myself to be a conservative first. And if you are familiar with the the tea party you would know that it was started by Ron Paul supporters in 2007. Apparently a lot of people joined in 2009 because thought it was a movement to rubberstamp anyone with an R after his or her name, and it was just about Obama, but it isn't. It's about making ALL officials accountable as they work for US. And if you did your homework you would see that Romney's policies are much closer to Obama's than any other person who ran.. He has the same advisors for foreign policy, education and fiscal matters, and oh, did I mention Romneycare? And the liberals know he can't win so are loving the idea for him to be nominated. And RP would never run as a Democrat.. it would be antithetical to his small government, free market, constitutional principles that he has held all his life and voted correctly on for 30 years.
Jane Aitken
6:56 pm on Saturday, June 16, 2012
I just reread "Patriot"s post: "...why would you not just say Obama is as close to my candidate as I will get".
Some might ask you why YOU don't say that about your candidate?
"Why not pick a candidate that does not lie?"
I have sir, I have! At least, he isn't on 3 sides of the same issue and doesn't have to check with his handlers for what he's going to say, today.
There is no need to 'start a third party' when someone is a lifelong republican. Conservative principles belong in the republican party. Ronald Reagan thought so anyway.
"My guess is you support Obama and are using the Ron Paul candidacy as a platform to attack Romney"
This statement is a bit naive isn't it? How about hoping to have a person as I said who hasn't been on 3 sides of an issue in the last 10 years?
You're calling me a liar? That's interesting. At least I did not ever support Lyndon Baines Johnson or Paul Tsongas, even when I was young and surrounded by hippies, which is more than I can say for Romney.
Patriot
9:49 pm on Saturday, June 16, 2012
Are we now talking about who Obama hung out with? Romney is not going to quit, he will continue to try and defeat Obama. So you have a choice and as is in all election cycles, the candidates don't please every voter. If you vote for Ron Paul you will have voted for the winner because Ron Paul was not in the race.
Ron Paul has not stated that he is a strong conservative republican, he repeatedly claims to be a Libertarian. Running as a republican makes him something less than honest to himself and followers.
What ever Romney is or does he has never claimed to be a Libertarian. And I don't know who was running against Johnson or Tsongas. Remember there are RINO's and DINO's.
Jane Aitken
8:06 am on Sunday, June 17, 2012
Romney family rejected Goldwater (the epitome of conservatism) and which ever Republican was running against Paul Tsongas. Whew! What does that tell you?
What do you think libertarianism is? Its about FREEDOM and that's why the founders created this Constitutional Republic to be different from all other country's form of gov't. It's about the most conservative anyone can get... adherence to the Constitution unlike the transnationalist's control of the current GOP. Do you understand what that means? Look it up if not.. it's very important. The current GOP is NOT 'conservative'. And young people are finding that out. They are also finding out what is wrong with our monetary system and know that if something isn't done, they will have no future. Romney has said he would do NOTHING about the Federal Reserve.
As far as I know, RP is still in the race -- he just won Iowa (21 of 25 delegates)
Bertram Chou
2:32 am on Sunday, June 17, 2012
No duh Paul supporters are not on board with Romney. Romney is an empty suit. All Romney's foreign policy rhetoric alone is enough to disqualify him in my eyes. He's also taken on arch neocon and Iraq war cheerleader John Bolton as his main foreign policy adviser. Scary
Ron Paul all the way.
Patriot
5:48 am on Sunday, June 17, 2012
So you have decided to support Obama.
I have not read one criticism of the current president and only other candidate on the ballot for "President!"
Seems pretty clear
Jane Aitken
8:10 am on Sunday, June 17, 2012
Happy Fathers Day to the Father of the Modern Day Tea Party, Dr. Ron Paul, REPUBLICAN candidate for president! (First tea party was December 16, 2007 right here in Boston and the second was July 12, 2008 with the march on Washington DC.)
Patriot
10:01 am on Sunday, June 17, 2012
He dropped out!!!!!!!!!!
Jane Aitken
10:23 am on Sunday, June 17, 2012
LOL no he didn't. We all just got email with a video of him giving us info for preparations for his appearance in Tampa at the convention, as well as two huge conventions on his behalf being run the days leading up. You've been listening to too much FAUX NEWS my friend. :-)
john
11:23 am on Sunday, June 17, 2012
The patriot obviously does not do any research. Rp is a libertarian\conservative, President Regan vocally vouched for his conservatism. patriot, when you are in a logical discussion it is good to use facts instead of emotional biased opinions, try taking a debate class it might educate you a little on the subject. No, rp did not drop out he personally stopped campaigning to do his job as a congressman and work on getting his federal reserve bill passed. The RP campaign and grass root supporters are still actively campaigning. Instead of just stating a lie, why don't you provide a false link to a source were RP has said he dropped out.
Patriot
5:53 pm on Sunday, June 17, 2012
OK have it your way he did not drop out. Romney did not secure the nomination and Gingrich is Ron Paul's campaign manager. Really
Elvis is still alive!
Shirley Shelton
5:06 pm on Sunday, June 17, 2012
There is strong movement for Ron Paul going on that is starting to circulate in the US. There is a Federal lawsuit. The RP Lawyers group is supposedly also taking over the RP campaign! The Liberty movement is growing stronger. Too Bad the Tea Party is leading people to Rino Republican-Romney! Voting for lesser of two evils is still voting for evil! No way true Ron Paul supporters will give a vote to anyone except the Doctor!
Patriot
5:55 pm on Sunday, June 17, 2012
If you eat to many sour grapes you will get cramps and gas!
Jane Aitken
8:40 pm on Sunday, June 17, 2012
@Patriot: You are starting to get tiresome. Why not be a good guy and look this stuff up for yourself? I'm too busy.
Here is one link, there are many other states:
http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2012/06/16/ron-paul-wins-21-25-delegates-elected-in-iowa/
And I doubt RP would let someone like NG near his campaign...
@Shirley: Our tea party in NH is strongly for Paul so no worries there.
Patriot
10:08 pm on Sunday, June 17, 2012
Libertarians keep chasing the wind. Your best hope is to convert the republican party. Team up with the free Staters.
Jane Aitken
10:30 am on Monday, June 18, 2012
@Patriot: I think you are confusing the Libertarian PARTY with conservatives for Republican Ron Paul who has for 30 years been a REPUBLICAN, 24 years in Congress, and probably represents the constitutional platform better than anyone else. The Libertarian PARTY candidate is former Governor Gary Johnson.
Russ Mollot
10:14 pm on Sunday, June 17, 2012
Was this supposed to be a newsworthy article? Mitt Romney's own "supporters" don't even like him. Now they want to kid themselves into believing that Dr. Paul's supporters are going to flip-flop over to the flip-flopper? Just wait until August, Flopney.
Jane Aitken
10:32 am on Monday, June 18, 2012
They could not even win Mass for him. All the delegates there were also for Paul. Now the Mass GOP is trying to deny them. If you can't even get people out to pledge to be delegates for your supposed own candidate, what does that tell you about the validity of the 'vote' or the reliability of the voting machines?
Patriot
5:30 am on Monday, June 18, 2012
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Rkgx1C_S6ls
Texas is a breeding ground
http://www.dailypaul.com/
mAXINE bEERS
9:21 pm on Tuesday, June 19, 2012
I have been for Ron Paul all along and I will write him in Mitten is a crook just like Ovmit the republican party are crooks and liers they need to go I am a Republican and Iam sick of them I am going to change partys I am 66 years old and have seen how crooked they have gottren over the years Let show them we mean what we say
Brian St. Onge
5:54 am on Wednesday, June 20, 2012
Your write-in vote for Ron Paul will be meaningless. About all it will accomplish is denying you the right to complain about who is elected because you threw your vote away instead of voting for one of the candidates nominated by the people.
Brian St. Onge
5:51 am on Wednesday, June 20, 2012
Ron Paul's son has endorsed Romney. End of discussion.
Gary S Seth
6:46 am on Wednesday, June 20, 2012
By November 6,2012,The majority of Americans may be writing in Ron Paul For President.The Future is not already written,whether in stone or on a ballot box.We can write our own Future.I will do just that ! "You can fool all of the people some of the time.You can fool some of the people all of the time.But You can't fool all the people all of the time".
Restore US All Ron Paul !
Jane Aitken
9:03 am on Wednesday, June 20, 2012
That was Senator Paul. But Congressman Ron Paul won't. He told Wolf Blitzer 'no way' yesterday. And what we have now is what is dangerous, not the constitutional foreign policy that would be ahdered to with President Paul.
Brian St. Onge
1:46 pm on Wednesday, June 20, 2012
Historically, the Rasmussen and Gallup polls of "likely" voters have been the most accurate. Both of them show Romney with 47%, Obama with 45%, and 5% undecided. Again, historically, 80% of undecided voters go for the challenger rather than the incumbent, That would give Romney 51% and Obama 48%. Ron Paul and the other fringe candidates would share the remaining 3% or so.
Jane Aitken
2:38 pm on Wednesday, June 20, 2012
Paul is hardly a 'fringe' candidate. He's just won at least 10 state caucuses. And in match ups with Obama he gets 49% to Obama's 43% He garnered 24% in NH primary and in other states as much as 40%.
Jane Aitken
2:38 pm on Wednesday, June 20, 2012
I might add your post is interesting because to most of us conservatives, candidates like Romney the former Democrat, and most of the others, are on the 'fringes'.
Brian St. Onge
8:58 pm on Wednesday, June 20, 2012
Of course Ron Paul is a fringe candidate. In national polls he manages under 3% of the vote. That's not exactly what you call a forerunner. Ron Paul a conservative???? How about a radical protectionist? He's right where he belongs - at home!
Jane Aitken
9:29 pm on Wednesday, June 20, 2012
Against Obama he gets 3%? Don't know where you are reading that but he would beat Obama, and is one of the only ones who can.
Jane Aitken
9:30 pm on Wednesday, June 20, 2012
I don't know of any other candidate who was able to get between 2,000-10,000 attendees at as he has done at his last dozen appearances in the last 4 months. They had to rent stadiums to accommodate everyone.
Brian St. Onge
9:19 pm on Wednesday, June 20, 2012
The vast majority of Ron Paul supporters come from the 50% of Americans that don't vote in national elections. And that's where most of them will be this November - home watching the rest of us elect a new president.
Jane Aitken
9:28 pm on Wednesday, June 20, 2012
Now that's a new bit of disinfo I've never heard before, not that I haven't heard lots of it coming from the sour puss establishment crowd. Funny I have never missed an election in my life. What next?
Gary Nyehurst
1:09 pm on Friday, June 22, 2012
Ron Paul supporters need to be commended for their enthusiasm, but it is time to consider accomplished whatever lofty goal you set out to accomplish, and be mature. Now is the time to fall in line behind our REAL candidate Mitt Romney, if you haven't realized by now that Paul is unelectable (U-N-E-L-E-C-T-A-B-L-E) you have a serious problem.
Dennis Taylor
9:32 pm on Saturday, August 11, 2012
Romney supporters need to get out a mirror and ask themselves, when they lose to Obama, why they were so stupid as to support such a wealthy, out of touch, man of weak character who wants to be god when he dies? These supporters must understand that a vote for Romney is a vote for Romney and few or none others. A vote for Paul is a vote for an America that has a chance to be renewed. If an honest Christian doctor, a man of the people as modern politicians go, cannot be elected, whose fault is that, really???
Ernest
7:42 am on Monday, August 13, 2012
Ron Paul???? C'mon, get real. How many times does this guy have to be rejected by the voters before you Paulbots get the message?