Which obviously means to vote Obama, in case that wasn't clear.

Romney can’t be trusted, as Republican leaders, media and experts agree!

Gen. Colin Powell, a Republican and Sec. of State under President George W. Bush:
“I’m not quite sure which governor Romney we would be getting with respect to foreign policy.”
http://thinkprogress.org/security/2012/10/25/1086721/powell-romney-foreign-policy/?mobile=nc

Politifact: 42 percent of Romney’s comments in recent months have been false, much higher than Obama’s comments.
http://www.politifact.com/personalities/mitt-romney/

Salt Lake City Tribune, largest daily paper in Republican and Mormon-led Utah: “Romney (is) willing to say anything to get elected.”
http://www.sltrib.com/sltrib/opinion/55019844-82/romney-obama-state-president.html.csp

Rick Santorum, former Republican Senator: “This is someone (Romney) who doesn’t have a core. He has been on both sides of almost every single issue in the past 10 years. “
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=av3q7-a-ayc&feature=player_embedded#!

FactCheck.org: “Romney distorts facts on Jeep, auto bailout.”
http://factcheck.org/2012/10/romney-distorts-facts-on-jeep-auto-bailout/

Brit Humes of Fox News: “Republicans do not trust Romney”
http://www.realclearpolitics.com/video/2011/10/30/brit_hume_republicans_do_not_trust_romney.html

Watts, why then did Obama say to "vote for revenge". So much for civil discourse!

NO, THANK YOU!

I don’t want Romney’s ideas for ‘change’ including:

• A severely conservative Supreme Court.

• Tax and jobs plan that doesn’t make mathematical sense as most experts say.

• 1% percent control of the nation,

• Leader who says “corporations are people”, and puts the needs of corporations
before the people.

• Higher taxes for middle class and lower taxes for the rich.

• Medicare taken bankrupt in 2016, as reports indicate,

• Overturn of Roe vs Wade and return women’s rights to the 1950s,

• Leader who condemns 47 percent of Americans.

• Leader with hot temper and controlling demeanor who is eager to start war against Iran.

I’m very pleased to stay with reliable, proven Obama-Biden who are taking America FORWARD - not back to the Bush years!

Joe, I've seen this same exact list of liberal talking points posted by other people. So much for a thinking electorate! When you have to cut and paste from the memo, you must not have very much to say on your own.

As Pink Floyd once said, "Forward he cried from from the rear as the front rank died!"

CBS 60 minutes releases part of an interview that was recorded on Sept 12, the day after the terrorist atttack in Benghazi where 4 American heroes died while the Obama Administration did nothing. Watts, have yopu seen any pictures released of the President in the situation room 'leading' the response to the Benghazi terrorist attack?
Anyway, the 60 minutes interview that was just released proves ONCE AGAIN, that President Obama was lying the night of the debate where Candy Crowley bailed him out.
KROFT: Mr. President, this morning you went out of your way to avoid the use of the word terrorism in connection with the Libya Attack, do you believe that this was a terrorism attack?

OBAMA: Well it’s too early to tell exactly how this came about, what group was involved, but obviously it was an attack on Americans. And we are going to be working with the Libyan government to make sure that we bring these folks to justice, one way or the other.

The 60 minute interview that was just released where President Obama will not say this is a terrorist attack. Bear in mind that this interview was AFTER his statement in the rose garden i.e the statement that the President claimed, during the second debate, that he said it was a terrorist attack

http://www.cbsnews.com/video/watch/?id=50134495n

The terrorist attack in Benghazi where 4 American heroes died while the Obama Administration sent reinforcements twice and was able to rescue the consulate staff?
Imagine if Bush had done the same in the dozens of consulate attacks during his tenure.
President Barack Obama's efforts to keep America safe has been stellar.

Mike- Surely you jest. The American seals were ordered to stand down and ignored the order. Mike, please produce the picture of President Obama in the Situation Room "leading" the rescue effort for the rescue of the consulate staff.

I am well aware of the fantasy Faux news is trying to create salemvoter. The reality is that there were two firefights separated by hours at two separate locations where reinforcements were sent in both times. Reinforcements had already arrived before the two Navy seals were hit by a mortar round.

Mikey, I am sorry I fell for your attempt to change the narrative from President Obama LYING in the second debate that he called it a terrorist attack, in the Rose Garden, on Sept 12. The tape just released by 60 minutes, of an interview later in the day confirms the President is lying during the second debate. PERIOD.
As for reinforcements, yes they did arrive, after landing at Benghazi airport at 1:15 am and not being able to leave the airport until 4:30 am. This force was a very small group, of 6-8 people, from CIA in Tripoli, not US assistance from a military base in Italy that was 2 hours away. At 6:00 am after the attacks, Libyan milittary forces arrived with 50 vehicles to evacuate the Americans.

So you're just concerned with parsing words and not the welfare of our foreign delegates, got it.

Obviously president Obama didn't care about the welfare of American diplomats. His administration refused to beef up security in the preceding months, and during the attack, the President went to bed.
The next day, and following weeks, the President and his administration then politiced the event, to protect the President election campaign, by saying it was due to a movie.

Its quite a fantasy your trying to sell, but no one with merit is buying.

"Mikey, I am sorry I fell for your attempt to change the narrative from President Obama LYING..."

Salemvoter, how insane are you? This is a subthread as a reply to my post showing the video of Mitt Romney lying directly to the faces of Americans and then you jumped in with some completely different agenda, hence trying to "change the narrative."

Is there any limit to how much you are willing to try to twist and turn things?

Watts, and my reply was to you. You posted and example to claim that Romney was lying. I replies with a post and example of Obama lying during the second debate. Then Mikey jumps in about the Benghazi attack.
So, Watts, turn the wattage up a little and comprehend!

You really are this slow, aren't you. I made a post, which means that I created the topic, which was Romney's massive, blatant, straight to your face lie about Jeep. Then you came with a reply that had nothing at all to do with my post. So, whatever, I like letting people like you drone on, because I think that you do more damage to your cause, than anything else. But then after you and Healy go back and forth, for you to accuse him of changing the subject, is ridiculous, when that is exactly what you did when replying to my post. If you wanted yet another conspiracy theory discussion about Benghazi, you could have just started your own post, as opposed to doing it as a reply. But to accuse Mike of changing the narrative within this subthread, when that is exactly what you did in the very first reply to my post in the main thread, is simply hypocritical.

BENGHAZI....4 more dead! 4 more dead! 4 more dead!

@Lorna

That is ridiculously distasteful and disrespectful. I personally think that it is disgusting how the fringe conservatives try to politicize this tragedy, but what you just posted is nothing short of vile.

Because Democrats hold a huge edge in swing state early voting.

I actually thought that the major news agencies had completely abandoned exit polls because they were so infrequently correct. And I say that expecting that they will show well for Obama, just as early voting did, but I thought that everybody concluded that they were too random to use as any sort of predictor.

Says the pot, calling the kettle black ;)
Dump O, you are a peice o' work...

Which stock market did Obama double ? You are aware that double = multiply x 2, yes ?

March 9, 2009 Dow Jones industrials 6547
Nov. 6 2012: Dow Jones Industrials 13256
Multiple 2.02 or about double.

Still below peak of Bush bubble of 14.000, but highest level since 2008. Wall street should be ecstatic. Only Bill Clinton in his second term was better for investors! Bush was a net loss for investors over his two terms.

Ah, so you are cherry-picking the start date to exclude the deep dive during his first few months. Very clever mathematics. Pretend somebody else was president then (wink) I get it.

Of course the election of a President changes everything magically. No need to implement policies, make decisions, pass bills, it just magically gets better.

Will we have 12 million new jobs tomorrow if Romney is elected?

The stock market has doubled because the Fed and Obama Administration have simply printed more money, with no backing to that money.

If you consider being backed by the full faith and credit of the U.S. government nothing, then yes.

Mikey, wasn't the US downgraded last year by one of the bond agencies?

@Billnh

You just came off as a total moron with that comment if you don't know that the markets have doubled since when they bottomed out from the Bush fiasco. Everybody knows that.

BTW, curiously, as everybody predicted the markets to crash as Obama's nomination became more evident, right now Nate Silver has Obama with a 90.9% chance of winning and the markets went up today, with that that information.

Dumpy, you have no idea what your talking about.

There is only one rule that you need to know about Dumpy. If he/she says something, then you know that the exact opposite has to be the reality.

So Dumpy, why don't you tell us again how Romney is winning.

Ditto with Romney's college records. You know he's hiding something there

Did that foul mouthed Kid Rock sing?

Foul mouthed? Is that a problem for an entertainer? I believe JayZ may use a naughty word or two... And didn't your man Obama just call his opponent a "bull$hitter"? He is so presidential...

So you don't know if he sang?

Yes, Mike, Kid Rock sang. Among other songs he sang "Born Free". Maybe YOU should listen to it sometime.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RST9mrC5sbc
I found it very interesting that there were 2 stages at each end of the arena and that as the crowd came in it was Romney's stage that everyone headed for. Kid Rock was just a bonus. It was Romney everyone wanted to see!

Mitt Romney is going to have a lot of free time after today, maybe he will go on tour.

Did Kid Rock sing "So Hott"

You got a body like the devil and you smell like sex
I can tell you're trouble but I'm still obsessed

[Chorus:]
Because you know you're so hot, I want to get you alone
So hot, I wanna get you stoned
So hot, I don't want to be your friend
I want to f... you like I'm never gonna see you again
....Yeah.....C'mon....Yeah

You're like the kiss of death, like the hand of fate
I can tell you're trouble but I still want a taste

[Chorus x2]

Because you're so hot I want to get you alone
I want to get you stoned
I don't want to be your friend
I want to f... you like I'm never gonna see you again

See you again
See you again

Really Healey? Yes, Kid Rock is foul mouthed. Oh what a crime.
Who was Obama campaigning with yesterday? Oh, that's right, JayZ. Why don't you post some JayZ lyrics.
Point - it doesn't matter.

Found some JayZ lyrics online. I wonder if this is on the president's ipod:

"Real Niggaz"
(feat. Too $hort)

[Jay-Z]
Real niggaz do real things
Hangin with the honies is the song I sing
Real niggaz do real things
On the road to riches and diamond rings
Real niggaz do real things
Bustin my toast off the roof drinkin 90 proof til spring
Real niggaz do real things, check

We started out makin, small time bacon
Two little niggaz bakin, talkin bout whippin cakes
Get clothin and big cheddar, hopin it gets better
We had no knowledge of this shit we just was with whatever
In front of your buildin clockin, thought I was makin a killin
Right in front of your children, eightball in my side pocket
They was corrupt too, disrespectin the fiends I used to
look up to, take it or leave it, fuck you
In different parts of the planet, Oakland to New York
I'm hollerin Lifetimes, he hollerin Life's Too $hort
Parallel lives and jew-els held high
To the Range, to the Rove, get exchanged, for your souls
You know how the game goes, slang to get G's
and speak in Chinese everybody gains the same dough
Get your shit scarred fuckin with my sick squad
from Marcy, to the Bay y'all, we get large, keep in charge

On the road to riches and diamond rings
Real niggaz do real things
Hangin with the honies is the song I sing
Real niggaz do real things
On the road to riches and diamond rings
Real niggaz do real things

(edited for length)

The Democratic Party is not the one who pretends to be holier than the other.
Democrats swear, I have no problem with that.

OK, so entertainers at campaign events for Republicans should not have sworn in their song lyrics, but it is fine entertainers at campaign events for Democrats to swear and use racial slurs. Moral relativism at its finest...

I hope your just "playing" dumb Seamus....

Unfortunately for you, we loosed the Obama upon the Romney and our beast destroyed your beast.

I don't think anyone disagrees that conservative think tanks can spin the truth to sell their candidate.

Facts are facts Mike. America is in worse shape now than 4 years ago. After 2 years of having complete control of Congress Obama still could not get anything done on jobs that actually brought down the unemployment rate. It's has been higher than when he took office for his whole term. Obama claims to have created 5 million jobs. Even if he did, the stimulus spent $716 BILLION to do it!!!! Even if you claim that it saved 10 times as many jobs (making it 55 million jobs) it still would have cost 13 BILLION to save or create each job!!!!!!!

Unemployment rate has dropped over 2 percentage points.
The stimulus included the largest tax break in American history.
The stimulus included the largest investment in education in American history.
The stimulus included the largest investment in clean energy in American history.
The stimulus included the largest investment in infrastructure since Eisenhower.
We have stopped the loss of 800,000 jobs a month.
We have created 5 million new jobs.
And all this has laid the foundation for the creation of 12 million jobs in the next four years.
We are better off than we were at the end of the recession, and we are on the threshold of a great future.

Lorna, the fact that you repeat the "complete control" lie discredits anything else you have to say.

They also claimed Mormonism was a cult, until they didn't like the Christian the Mormon was running against. Selective outrage.

To salemvoter, you can see up-thread here that I said this to them:

"I like letting people like you drone on, because I think that you do more damage to your cause, than anything else."

These type of people were so blind and ignorant to what they were doing. And it wasn't obviously won or lost on Patch, but you know that this rabid lying and distortion was happening everywhere. I would be at bars listing to these freaks or getting emails from people I met once filled with this frothing at the mouth distortions. I came from a split house of one Democratic parent and one Republican parent. Most of my life I was never party affiliated and have voted both parties for president in different years and still split my vote up locally quite often. But even if somebody might be ideologically inclined to lean right, all they need is enough encounters with this type of maddening nonsense and it would push them the other direction. I can laugh about specific people like Dumpy, News Fish or salemvoter, but reality is that we encounter these people in our daily lives an in the streets and we are compelled to run away from them as if they were zombies on the Walking Dead.

I have to be open here. I posted a lot around the country and while I was trying to make real points, I was never spamming and people realized that I actually engaged them in conversations. The reason being; it was like dropping dropping raw meat into a lake in a Roger Corman film and watching the piranhas come rabidly after it. I would drop these ideological points into a thread and wait until I saw the teeth, because I knew for a fact that I could craft a far better post than most. So anybody who was just a reader of the comments would think; "Hmmm...here is somebody who can construct a decent argument and back it up with facts, but on the other side there was the poster who reads like the frothing dog that you would cross the street to avoid. Sometimes I probably went a little too far in the ball busting, but nothing close to some of the stuff that was targeted at me. Goofing on Dumpy and News Fish was genuinely about as fun and goofy as it got. Those two really never had a clue how juvenile that they looked, especially in their complete inability to engage on the posts that they were throwing out in such rapid succession.